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Neo 2.0 Firmware Can’t Be Updated?

Hi Jack,

Is it true that the firmware in the Neo 2.0 can’t be upgraded? This device has numerous issues and I was hoping an update in the future would address them.

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Andreas G.

Feb 02, 2022

There is also a guy who use this hyperion project and sell the whole DIY Kit, what seems to be the best working Ambilight ever. And of course everytime updates

https://glimmrtv.com or on Facebook: https://facebook.com/GlimmrTV

I´m thinking about to buy one, because I have Philips Hue Lights and it is possible to integrate them. Should be show...

Feb 03, 2022

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Yes, there is option to integrate Philips and many more. The list of supported LED strips and controllers is really impressive. I'm using WS2812B, it's 12V which prevents dimming for long strip. And Raspberry Pi.

The most expensive part is proper HMDI splitter with HDR support and HDR to SDR tone mapping.

Feb 01, 2022

Guys, just make your own ambilight. I did and works great!

Software is free, opensource and of course, upgradable. There is even prepared image for Raspberry PI. You can tweak a lot. For example, you don't have to cut strip, just set number of LEDs, the rest will be off. Start can be change as well, from any part of the screen you want.

Just order parts Amazon, spend some time DIY and you can have HDR, DV, whatever you want and depends how much you want to spend :)

https://docs.hyperion-project.org/

I'm pretty sure lytmi is using that software because Jack posted link to another fork:

github.com

GitHub - awawa-dev/HyperHDR: Open source ambient lighting implementation for television sets based on the video and audio streams analysis for Windows, macOS and Linux (x86 and Raspberry Pi). Includes real-time HDR tone mapping and multi-threading for better performance.

Open source ambient lighting implementation for television sets based on the video and audio streams analysis for Windows, macOS and Linux (x86 and Raspberry Pi). Includes real-time HDR tone mappin...

Anyway, I know DIY is not for everyone. It's less elegant then commercial box but you don't need to beg for update ;)

Unhappy Customer

Feb 08, 2022

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@Z I hear you.... The problem I had was, I needed to adjust a lot of stuff (cables, wiring, resetting stuff), and my TV isn't easy to take off/on the wall (particularly with all that stuff hanging off the back). But, you are 100% correct, the Lytmi product isn't adjustable. the LED's are several inches/CM off. Hyperion is extremely customizable.... It's been a couple years since I tinkered with it. Since this Lytmi product is unusable (the latency is really bad too), I guess I will have to give Hyperion another chance.

Feb 08, 2022

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@joshuabray37 Hyperion latency for me is extremely low, basically real time. I even lower it down with turning off smoothing. Now LEDs follow every flash on the screen if I want to. With Hyperion, you can fine tune LED position, so now vertical and horizontal color bars are exactly aligned with the screen. I put it all in the ottoman. Looks like a sub, which I also have. Now it looks like two subs :) Only thing hanging behind the TV is the Raspberry Pi. If Lytmi let us to access all settings in advance mode, like we have in Hyperion, then we might be able to fix all problems. After all, most likely Lytmi is using Hyperion as a base, just locked down and sell as their own product.

Vic

Sep 24, 2022

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Thanks for the info, I didn't know about this. Do you know if I can use the Lytmi USB LED strips with hyperion? I am tired of having to reboot my Neo every day to get it to video sync.

jgrana

Jan 20, 2022

BTW, it’s not too bad assuming it gets a Non-DV signal. But, another design flaw is that if you split the signal using an intelligent HDMI spitter (and HDFury product) and don’t connect anything to the Neo 2.0 HDMI Out, it presents a 4K30 EDID to the sink (anything connected to Neo 2.0 HDMI In. But, Neo 2.0 supports 4k60! Anyway as a result, the sink will think - hey, 4k30 is the most I can send - and will downscale to 4K30 - even though your display likely supports at least 4k60…

Hopefully they address this with Neo 2.1…

Kuba

Jan 20, 2022

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You can use a cheap HDMI 4K dummy plug to solve this problem.

David Shen

Jan 21, 2022

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@jgrana I won’t give them another chance if they don’t solve the latency issue with Neo 2.0. I may consider other brands in future

jgrana

Jan 20, 2022

If and when they do come up with a 2.1 Neo that is firmware upgradeable AND they give me a huge discount - I would consider it. If not, I’m pretty much putting Neo in the Not box. ;-)

David Byrne

Jan 20, 2022

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@jgrana I have to pause live TV just to get it to work lol

Exokaz

Jan 20, 2022

It'll never get fixed. What we get, is it.

Maybe with their hdmi 2.1 box they will actually implement firmware updates, and correct color saturation for HDR and DV.

jgrana

Jan 20, 2022

Incredible. If true, it’s a major design flaw….

David Byrne

Jan 20, 2022

so we will never get the hdr issue fixed then?

Matty UK

Jan 20, 2022

They have said it cannot be updated via firmware updates. Getting that information from them was like trying to get blood from a stone at the start, but they eventually fessed up.