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    jgrana
    Jan 20

    Neo 2.0 Firmware Can’t Be Updated?

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    Hi Jack,

    Is it true that the firmware in the Neo 2.0 can’t be upgraded? This device has numerous issues and I was hoping an update in the future would address them.


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    Matty UK
    Jan 20

    They have said it cannot be updated via firmware updates. Getting that information from them was like trying to get blood from a stone at the start, but they eventually fessed up.

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    David Byrne
    Jan 20

    so we will never get the hdr issue fixed then?

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    jgrana
    Jan 20

    Incredible. If true, it’s a major design flaw….

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    jgrana
    Jan 20

    If and when they do come up with a 2.1 Neo that is firmware upgradeable AND they give me a huge discount - I would consider it. If not, I’m pretty much putting Neo in the Not box. ;-)


    David Byrne
    Jan 20

    @jgrana I have to pause live TV just to get it to work lol

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    Exokaz
    Jan 20

    It'll never get fixed. What we get, is it.


    Maybe with their hdmi 2.1 box they will actually implement firmware updates, and correct color saturation for HDR and DV.

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    jgrana
    Jan 20

    BTW, it’s not too bad assuming it gets a Non-DV signal. But, another design flaw is that if you split the signal using an intelligent HDMI spitter (and HDFury product) and don’t connect anything to the Neo 2.0 HDMI Out, it presents a 4K30 EDID to the sink (anything connected to Neo 2.0 HDMI In. But, Neo 2.0 supports 4k60! Anyway as a result, the sink will think - hey, 4k30 is the most I can send - and will downscale to 4K30 - even though your display likely supports at least 4k60…


    Hopefully they address this with Neo 2.1…


    Kuba
    Jan 20

    You can use a cheap HDMI 4K dummy plug to solve this problem.

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    David Shen
    Jan 21  ·  Edited: Jan 21

    @jgrana I won’t give them another chance if they don’t solve the latency issue with Neo 2.0. I may consider other brands in future

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    Z
    Feb 01

    Guys, just make your own ambilight. I did and works great!


    Software is free, opensource and of course, upgradable. There is even prepared image for Raspberry PI. You can tweak a lot. For example, you don't have to cut strip, just set number of LEDs, the rest will be off. Start can be change as well, from any part of the screen you want.


    Just order parts Amazon, spend some time DIY and you can have HDR, DV, whatever you want and depends how much you want to spend :)


    https://docs.hyperion-project.org/


    I'm pretty sure lytmi is using that software because Jack posted link to another fork:



    github.com
    GitHub - awawa-dev/HyperHDR: Open source ambient lighting implementation for television sets based on the video and audio streams analysis for Windows, macOS and Linux (x86 and Raspberry Pi). Includes real-time HDR tone mapping and multi-threading for better performance.
    Open source ambient lighting implementation for television sets based on the video and audio streams analysis for Windows, macOS and Linux (x86 and Raspberry Pi). Includes real-time HDR tone mappin...

    Anyway, I know DIY is not for everyone. It's less elegant then commercial box but you don't need to beg for update ;)

    joshuabray37
    Feb 08

    Argh! That's what I WAS using, and it worked great (no noticeable latency). But, I got tired of all that stuff hanging off the back of my TV (Raspberry Pi, Arduino, Splitter, HTMI to Component, etc, etc). When I saw all the positive reviews on youtube, I jumped on this. I suspect those reviews were "influenced" by receiving the free kits... I've I can't get this issue resolved by support, I will be responding to all those reviews with my experience and the experience of everyone on this forum.

    Z
    Feb 08  ·  Edited: Feb 08

    @joshuabray37 I totally understand you. It's way more elegant to use productized solution. But problem is that is not working as supposed to, does not have way to tweak and in general it's less flexible.

    I'm still tweaking mine setup. For example, subtitles were messing up blackbar detection but using another algorithm fixes that. And detects vertical and horizontal blackbars. You can tweak response, smoothing, calibrate colors, basically every part of it.


    Luckily I read comments here before ordering. With lytmi I will have a lot of frustration, with hyperion, I have a lot of tweaks to play with :)

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    joshuabray37
    Feb 08

    @Z I hear you.... The problem I had was, I needed to adjust a lot of stuff (cables, wiring, resetting stuff), and my TV isn't easy to take off/on the wall (particularly with all that stuff hanging off the back). But, you are 100% correct, the Lytmi product isn't adjustable. the LED's are several inches/CM off. Hyperion is extremely customizable.... It's been a couple years since I tinkered with it. Since this Lytmi product is unusable (the latency is really bad too), I guess I will have to give Hyperion another chance.

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    Andreas G.
    Feb 02

    There is also a guy who use this hyperion project and sell the whole DIY Kit, what seems to be the best working Ambilight ever. And of course everytime updates


    https://glimmrtv.com or on Facebook: https://facebook.com/GlimmrTV


    I´m thinking about to buy one, because I have Philips Hue Lights and it is possible to integrate them. Should be show...

    Z
    Feb 03

    Yes, there is option to integrate Philips and many more. The list of supported LED strips and controllers is really impressive. I'm using WS2812B, it's 12V which prevents dimming for long strip. And Raspberry Pi.


    The most expensive part is proper HMDI splitter with HDR support and HDR to SDR tone mapping.

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